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  #951  
Old 09-05-2017
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Hey those dock lines are probably worth more than the average small boat...
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Old 09-08-2017
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ummmmm I am not sure dock lines are going to be what you may be concerned about cost wise....
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Old 09-08-2017
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What's a new main or a new #1 for a TP 52 worth??
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Old 09-09-2017
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depends which version of 3di you get.
The kevlar offshore versions are about $40000.00 canadian the full carbon ones that the med cup guys have are low 40s usf
carbon 3di jibs are in the 16000 usf range.
thankfully there are med cup sails that come up with very little use....
The current record holder of Vic Maui( Valkyrie) is very much for sale. It also won the ORC division at Swiftsure (Hien bank) and ORC overall at Round the county 2016
it comes with 2 med cup mains
j 1.5 j2 and j 3 3di all in perfect condition
two new kites
and about 32 other sails..
just saying
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Old 09-26-2017
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Who remembers Gary Storch's modified Kirby 30? It pretty much exemplifies 'local anomaly'.

http://www.usedvictoria.com/classifi..._30657490.lite
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Who remembers Gary Storch's modified Kirby 30? It pretty much exemplifies 'local anomaly'.

http://www.usedvictoria.com/classifi..._30657490.lite
That thing seems to change hands every few years. Okay on the price - at least they aren`t dreaming about getting $10k more than they paid for it.

Pretty certain it has an OB, which hurts resale.

Never seen the keel before - I really don`t like it - lots of compromises and looks like it would be pretty draggy. But it becomes expensive to do it right.
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Who remembers Gary Storch's modified Kirby 30? It pretty much exemplifies 'local anomaly'.

http://www.usedvictoria.com/classifi..._30657490.lite
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PHRF certificate I have lists her as 92.
Pretty sure a Ross 930 would beat it over the water all the way around the course.

But at $6500, it costs less some sails...
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PHRF certificate I have lists her as 92.
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Pretty sure a Ross 930 would beat it over the water all the way around the course.

But at $6500, it costs less some sails...
So what you're arguing is that Ultraman II should be rated faster than 92?
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No. Believe 92 would be a difficult number given what I have seen of standard Kirby 30s, but probably a function of converting to A-sails with the prodded penalty and a big kite. Final Dash suffered a similar fate until he made changes and appealed. PHRF is a handicap system with a quasi-measurement rule layered over top. If you are making changes you have to make sure they will pay for themselves. If you just want to go fast and modify your boat, go to town.
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No. Believe 92 would be a difficult number given what I have seen of standard Kirby 30s, but probably a function of converting to A-sails with the prodded penalty and a big kite. Final Dash suffered a similar fate until he made changes and appealed. PHRF is a handicap system with a quasi-measurement rule layered over top. If you are making changes you have to make sure they will pay for themselves. If you just want to go fast and modify your boat, go to town.
Given that it is an Island boat, it would have been handicapped by NW and who knows how they arrived at that. Remember Final Dash was given a 105 by NW. With all the punching out of the sail dimensions on that boat, there is no way it would have been 105 using base + adj. So my guess is they assigned that number as an X-Dash.

As Schnick has pointed out, when FD returned to BC, if you deemed it a Dash 34 OB with a base of 113 and added in all the adjustments, FD would have been 54. By deeming her an X-Dash they assigned her a 68, the same as AK, which may or may not have been fair, but they had little else to base her on.

Now that they have trimmed back on the sail dimension insanity and removed the bulb , she is once again deemed a plain old Dash 34 OB with just 27 seconds of penalties giving her a PHRF of 86 which she seems to be capable of sailing to so far.

Note her BC cert on line lists the base as 107, but it should be 113
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